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Components Reviews / Re: Review. Fasttech 1-4.2 volt single mode driver.
« Last post by ShadowKhan on May 25, 2018, 06:22:17 AM »
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General Flashlight Discussion / Re: Klarus st10 vs Klarus st15
« Last post by ShadowKhan on May 25, 2018, 06:22:04 AM »
These data are very well suited to the needs I am looking for.

Provided for review by
Product page @ Nitecore  =


For review I have the Nitecore LR12 , a 5 Mode ( Low - Medium - High - Turbo - Beacon ) 1000 + Lumen flashlight with a inbuilt retractable lantern . The mode of operation is the near bullet proof twisty action with no mode memory . The light always starts in low and works it's way up to Turbo and then Beacon mode . To extend the inbuilt lantern just twist the tailcap to turn the light on and keep twisting till you have extended the lantern . You can chose how much of the lantern you want to extend as there is no impedance to the function of the light .
Lantern :
You can extend the lantern as much or as little you want to suit your needs . The more you extend the lantern the more it impacts on spill . Yes you can actually have the lantern extended and still use the LR12 as a flashlight . This is why I am so impressed with the LR12 , you can extend the lantern as much as you want to help make you visible in the dark but still use the LR12 as a flashlight . The lantern head makes you so much more visible to say Vehicle traffic on a dark busy road and in doing so increases your safety factor . It has been wet and dark and woolly here recently ( Winter is almost here ) making it much harder for cars to see pedestrians . In fact when I am out walking it is almost impossible to see other people until you are almost on top of them . And it's circumstances like this that make the LR12 a valuable asset .
Flashlight :
It is a twisty action . To turn on the light hold the section of the light marked "B" and then twist the tailcap "A" clockwise to turn on the light . The LR12 always starts in Low , so to change modes quickly twist anti-clockwise to break electrical contact and twist clockwise again . If you don't hold the section of light marked "B" then you will most likely extend the inbuilt Lantern . Now this is where I come to the only gripe I have against the LR12 . The section marked "B" is too small , and I find it some what clumsy to change modes as the fingers holding the light ( B ) tend to come in contact with my fingers twisting the tailcap . It makes for a uncomfortable twisty action when you need to fumble about . I would really like to see "B" being about double it's size to make the light so much easier to manipulate . ( Change modes )
1) Excellent build quality
2) Anodizing is excellent and HARD
3) Threads are well cut and lubed
4) Smooth reflector
5) Easy to EDC
6) Nice beam , good hotspot with good flood
7) No sag issues
8) Lanyard + a spare O ring
9) No detectable PWM
10) 1 x 18650 or 2 x CR123

Concept :
I really like the simplicity and function of the LR12 , it is as near bullet proof as you can make a flashlight as well as performing so many functions by the ingenious incorporation of the retractable lantern . And as with other Nitecore flashlights the LR12 incorporates a magnetic base so you can put the LR12 in places , like under the hood of the car if you have engine issues or just for extra light on a dark day . The lantern head ( besides being a lantern ) can be used like a traffic wand , it can be a warning beacon ( in beacon mode ) . The uses just boggle the mind , just of the top of my head - walkies - skiing - boating - emergencies - and your imagination is the limiting factor . Geez ! , just remembered . I would have liked to have seen a larger lanyard hole . Something large enough so you could fit a Rock Climbing Carbineer to the light . ( Would have been nice ) . I really love the idea behind this light , it's is brilliant in its simplicity and function and yes I think it can be improved upon . ( Nitecore Needs to take the LR12 to the next level - simply too good an idea ) .
Performance :
Battery used is a 18650 Sanyo ( Don't recall the capacity ) Red Wrapper .
Low - 3.3mA - 1 Lumen
Medium - 0.13A - 82 Lumen
High - 0.51A - 312 Lumen
Turbo - 1.43A - 1200+ Lumen
Damn straight those numbers don't match ! And I think it's because of the safety features built into the driver . So when the light detects something is NQR it lowers the current to a SAFE level . So when I try to get a current reading with my MM I am triggering the safety . So best to disregard the current information ( or quite possibly double it ? ) and just go with the output and maybe go to the cree data sheet and do some math . And yes on Turbo I got over 1200 Lumens in my light box . I think Nitecore is really understating output , and with so much variance in battery performance , maybe it's a good thing to understate performance a little .

Conclusion :
As delivered , I like the LR12 . It is very EDC able , the twisty action is just about bullet proof and the extendable lantern is just Gravy . Yes the LR12 can be improved upon and I sincerely hope that Nitecore takes this concept to the next level . The LR12 deserves to serve those that can see the versatility in the concept . I am impressed . Not everyone may appreciate the LR12 and that's ok , there are plenty of flashlights to chose from these days . And I would admit that if I were shopping for a flashlight the LR12 may not have been detected by my radar , which in hindsight ( and some first hand experience ) would be a crying shame . I am torn between giving the LR12 a 9 or 8 out of ten , so I may have to split the difference and go 8.5 / 10 . So I am deducting points for the small size of "B" the part of the body for extending the Lantern , as well the tiny lanyard hole . The LR12 is almost perfect , so close to being all it could be .
I would like to thank Nitecore for sending the LR12 for review - It really impressed me I have to tell you .

 Youtube Video =


New Member Introductions / Re: The Man from Nightstick
« Last post by Parrtanaka on May 22, 2018, 11:48:43 AM »
Your thoughts are similar to mine.
General Flashlight Discussion / Re: Klarus xt11gt battery
« Last post by Parrtanaka on May 22, 2018, 11:48:30 AM »
It's a good idea. Which made me think what to do next.
Flashlight Reviews / Thrunite Catapult V6 (mini thrower) // Full Review
« Last post by robo819 on May 21, 2018, 10:10:08 PM »
This is the Thrunite Catapult V6 mini thrower , sent for my review from Thrunite and NO other compensation other than keeping the light.

(ALL links are NON affiliated)……… The Catapult V6 can be found on the Thrunite main site and there is a 20% off discount at the time of this review , during their “Summer Promotion” using the code “20%” (NO quotations) ……

The Thrunite “Promotion” or sale is going on until 06-15-2018 and the discount equates to $14.00 off the listed price for the Catapult V6.

Just an FYI , also there are 5 other Thrunite lights that are using the same discount code “20%” during the promotion , here is the link to all of those as well……..

The Catapult V6 can be found on Amazon as well , although I am not sure if the discount code will work there……

The Catapult V6 is the latest in the Thrunite lineup and it is a powerful little thrower utilizing the XHP 35 HI emitter with boost driver to get the light downrange.

The light arrived in an Amazon box with large bubble wrap around the Thrunite box inside that and everything was in good condition.
 Everything in the Thrunite box was well packaged and well padded and it contained the Catapult V6 , a Thrunite 5000mAh cell , a nice Nylon Holster , 2 extra O-rings , charging cord , an extra rubber piece for under the switch button , an extra USB cover , a split ring (for use with lanyard if desired) the User manual and thank you card.

Upon unpacking the V6 the first thing I noticed is how well the light feels in hand and of course the Thrunite quality that seems to be present every time I grab a new light from them. The holster that comes with the package is also a pretty nice nylon holster and fits the light very well. The large diamond knurling to me looks great on the light and although it does not have the traditional Thrunite knurling we are used to seeing (and feeling) , it is still a good feeling knurling providing plenty of grip to prevent slippage. The knurling is also very well machined and no bad spots or ragged edges that I can find. All the Anodizing is very consistent and no thin or bare spots anywhere on the light.

The Catapult V6 is just s little larger than a C8 in diameter (although slightly shorter than a C8) and just a little smaller than the Convoy L2 with single cell tube.

The Bezel is styled in the traditional Thrunite style and it sits flush at the front of the light.
The lens is AR coated and was crystal clear when I unpacked the light.

The reflector is also very well done , very smooth and NO pin prick spots , dings or anything of that nature that I can detect.
The XHP 35 HI is perfectly centered in the reflector with the large centering piece used.

The side switch button is a metallic one and sits nicely in the flat of the housing. The center of the switch is lighted and serves several functions , with those being a power indicator , when the light is on (other than Moon Mode) , a Low Voltage warning , and charge indicator , showing Red while charging and Blue when fully charged. The indicator will turn purple if something is wrong such as the cell inserted backwards , or some other malfunction when trying to charge. The charge amperage is listed at 2 amps with the built in USB charger.

All of the threads are machined well and are smooth to operate. (tighten or loosen) The threads were lightly lubed when I received the light.
The light will tailstand well as the tailcap is made very flat and there is NO switch there. There is also double springs in the tailcap , so the current should have less resistance than a single spring tailcap. A single hole for the lanyard , or use of the spilt ring to attach the lanyard on the tailcap.

The MCPCB is odd to me , as it is made square and sitting on the round shelf inside the head. Although it is odd , it does seem to do what it needs to do and moves enough heat out to the head and fins to keep the light from getting overly hot. I took temperature readings through the first part of my run time testing and at the hottest point , I never found a spot over 123 degrees Fahrenheit , or 50.5 degrees Celsius on the light anywhere. The readings were done indoors , with the ambient temperature at 79 degrees Fahrenheit and NO airflow on the light.

The UI on the Catapult V6 is fairly easy to remember and use.
To go into Firefly or Moon mode it is a simple press and hold of the switch. From there you can either do a quick click back to off , or you can do a slightly longer press (1/2 to 3/4 of a second) and go into the regular modes , without turning the light back off.
To advance to the next mode of Low / Medium / High it is again a 1/2 to 3/4 press of the switch and release when the next mode is advanced , or hold the button down to scroll through L / M /H.
From any mode (including OF) a quick double click of the switch takes the light to Turbo mode and from Turbo you can access the “Strobe” function with another quick double click of the switch. A single quick click turns the light off.

The beam is pretty tight or defined , for the head to be as small as it is and using the XHP 35 Hi. I was surprised just how well focused and defined the beam is on the Catapult V6 to be honest , as I just was not expecting it to have the beam it does. The edges at 22 feet are well defined and the hotspot itself is pretty intense. Out at 400 plus yards , it still maintains a fairly tight hotspot for the small reflector and head , and puts a good amount of light on target at the 400 yard mark. Although the beam is well defined and all , the light does maintain enough spill for walking or what have you outdoors and is not simply a narrow pencil beam.

LED in Moon Mode (closeup) …… then 22 feet in Moon / Low / Medium / High / Turbo……

50 yards from gate in Medium / High / Turbo…………

100 Yards from gate in Medium / High / Turbo……….

And at 400 yards from far white marker and treeline , and then the center , or hotspot from that same picture enlarged…………..

Also I just want to say my readings may not be right in line with other Catapult V6 readings on lumens and amperage for other lights. I may be a lucky one that got a “super driver” in my light…….lol

In my testing on the lumens , the sample light I got for review started out pretty close to the listed specs in lower modes, but as I increased the modes higher , my readings got consistently higher than what is listed for this light , up to 330 lumens more in Turbo mode.
 I double checked my light box and my DMM both , with a couple of other lights that I know the readings on already and that I am sure are right , those were consistent with previous numbers on them , so the numbers posted in the charts below ARE correct for the particular sample I received of the Catapult V6 and I do not expect these numbers to be “written in stone” for all of the other Catapult V6 lights.

The V6 DOES have a Turbo timer at 3 minutes and steps down at that time to the High mode. I am not sure if I would call it a step down , or simply a voltage drop after that , but at 8 minutes my sample of the V6 dropped to 867 lumens. The light then ran the rest of the time through the test in that mode , or state. All of the runtime testing and lumens are listed in the chart I made for the testing below.

Link to the Full Youtube video review here. ( with live outdoor footage of the light )............


•LED: CREE XHP35 HI LED with a lifespan of 20+ years of run time.
•Output mode/Runtime(Tested by ThruNite 26650/5000mAh battery):

-Turbo (1700 lumen; 150 minutes)
 -High (950 lumen; 165 minutes)
 -Medium (180 lumen; 9 hrs)
 -Low (22 lumen; 62 hrs)
 -Firefly (0.5 lumen; 41 days)
 -Strobe (1200 lumen; 180 minutes)
•Working voltage: 2.75V-4.2V
•Battery: 1 × 26650 batteries ( included in the light)
•Max beam distance: 750 meters
•Peak beam intensity: 140650 cd.
•Waterproof: IPX-8 Standard (2M)
•Impact resistance: 1.5M
•Working temperature: -20℃ to 40℃.
•Weight: 192g without battery.
•Dimensions: 132mm (Length) x 58mm (Bezel Diameter) x 33.5mm (Tube Diameter)
•Accessories: Holster x1, Lanyard x1, ThruNite 26650 battery x1, O ring x2, User’s manual x1, USB charging cable x1, Spare USB plug x1, Spare side switch cap x1

•Turn ON/OFF
 Single press the side switch to turn the flashlight on/off . Long press the side switch to get firefly mode.
•Change Modes
 With the light turned on, long press the side switch to circle through Low, Medium and High. Double click from any mode to get to Turbo. Another double click to get to Strobe.
•Memory Function
 The light will turn on in the last mode accessed, except for Firefly, Turbo and Strobe.
•Charging and indicator
 2A USB charging. When the indicator on the switch flashes red, it means the battery need to be changed or charged. During charging, the indicator is RED, and only firefly, low and medium modes are available. After the light is fully charged, the indicator light will turn to BLUE. The indicator will be off when it is firefly mode. Purple light means abnormal charging.
•Battery Replacement
 Take off the tail cap, insert the battery with the anode (+) toward the LED assembly (head of the light), screw the tail on and tighten it all the way to operate the light.

Flashlight Reviews / Review /Odepro TM30 / 18650 Flashlight (Bundle)
« Last post by robo819 on May 16, 2018, 07:16:45 PM »
This is the Odepro TM30 , sent for my review from Odepro and NO other compensation other than keeping the light.

The light (package) can be found on the main site ………(links are NON affiliated) ……..

Or at Amazon ………….

From my understanding this light is upgraded from the original version which was making 560 lumens , to what is making now at 750 lumens on the highest setting.

The TM30 arrived in an Amazon box with large bubble wrap and the Odepro box inside that. The Odepro box itself was well padded inside , with foam rubber on both sides of the contents and everything was packed in a neat order.
The package includes the TM30 , a 3000mAh (High Discharge) cell with the Odepro brand on it , A single cell intelli-charger , 2 extra O-rings and a lanyard.

The charger is your basic single cell intelli-charger with red indicator light when cell is charging and green indicator when the cell is fully charged and as mentioned the “Odepro” branded cell is included…..

The TM30 is a “Tactical” style light , with the side switch and tail switch both made onto the tailcap itself. The side switch on the tailcap sounds awkward at first , but it really is not nearly as awkward as one might think once you have the light in hand.
The clip is a nice design (although it could be a little thicker for more strength) with the tailcap actually holding it in place once the “tactical” grip or “cigar” grip is tightened down……..

The emitter is a XM-L2 U4 (cool white) and the reflector is an Orange peel. The light is rated at 750 lumens and my measurements are very close to that in the Turbo mode. The High mode I got a little higher reading and then the Medium and low modes were also very close to rated lumens. Those results are noted in the charts near the end of this review.

The light is made very well from everything I can see on it.
The knurling is well done and no thin or bare spots on the anodizing that I have found……

The threads are well cut and smooth and were lightly lubed when I inspected them……

The driver is somehow independent from the tailcap circuitry. The “pill” or driver compartment , is well made from a solid piece of aluminum , making for a solid shelf for the MCPCB to sit on and that in turn helps with the heat transfer. This piece is also made well threaded…..

A few beamshots from 100 yards to the gate on High and Turbo ….. 75 yards on same settings…….. 50 yards on Medium , High and Turbo and then the same settings at 25 yards……………

The UI is fairly simple to use. The main tail switch is for ON/OFF with a full click , or momentary on with a half press. When the light is turned on with the tail switch the side switch on the tail is used to change modes. The modes are changed with a simple press of the side (tail) switch and each press changes to the next mode down in descending order. There is also mode memory , so whatever mode you turn the light off in , is the mode the light will come back on in the next time. The momentary on will also use the last memorized mode. When the light is “OFF” the side (tail) switch is used for the strobe function only.

There is NO step down on this light from the Turbo or highest mode , but it really does not need it as explained below……….

During my runtime testing , I took measurements of the temperature with a laser thermometer each time I checked lumens at regular intervals. The light never got over 115 degrees at the hottest point and this was with the light turned on in Turbo mode and left running the entire time , with zero airflow , indoors at 79 degrees Fahrenheit. Overall this is a very well made light and has good output for only the 750 lumens than it has. The runtime is very good also with the lumen output the light has.

The only thing(s) I would suggest changing really is strengthening the clip a little and possibly upping the lumen output to around 1000 or slightly higher , as I feel the design could handle a bit more amperage and heat and would make it feel a little more “tactical” IMO with a higher output. I did notice some PWM in the Medium and Low modes on the video camera screen , but my eyes are not sensitive to the PWM , so I do not notice it otherwise.

I also tested the lumen output with a LG HE4 cell against the included Odepro cell and the readings were almost identical with both cells , so I am listing only the readings from the included cell.

Here are the charts I made on the runtime and lumen output………

Here is the Youtube link to the full video review with ALL the beamshots and outdoor live footage of the light............

And the listed information from the Odepro site......
Lamp Type:CREE XM-L2 (U4)
•Working Voltage:3-4.2V
•Lumens (brightness) :Turbo(750 lumens)-High(250 lumens)-Middle(50 lumens)-Low(12 lumens)-Strobe(280 lumens)
•Irradiation Distance:730 feet
•LED Runtime:50,000hours
•Waterproof Level:IPX 6, can prevent rain and living water
•Size:1.33*0.97*5.7 in
•Flashlight Weight:121.1g


ON. When flashlight in OFF state, you can depress the switch partially and the light will turn on. Continue to press the switch until it click, it will remain on even though release your finger. -OFF. When flashlight in ON state, you can press the switch until it click and release your finger to off.
 How to change modes? When the flashlight is in ON state, press the side switch, you can change the four modes from turbo,low,middle and high mode. When the flashlight is in ON state,press the side switch for three seconds, you can enter SOS state. When the flashlight is in OFF state, press the side switch, you can enter Strobe state.

Flashlight Collections / Re: The Bykfixer collection
« Last post by bykfixer on May 13, 2018, 02:17:32 AM »
The aviator in the previous post now has a Tana singLED in 4000 kelvin flavor. It runs at about 25% output on a CR123.... which in this case is about 25 lumens.

In general the light collection isn't growing anymore. Noticing that box stores seem to have less and less old school name'd lights and more as seen on tv junk, I have turned my sights to some classic names like Rayovac or Energizer. I've noticed a vast selection of Rayovac "essentials" at various places like drug stores and grocery stores. At between $3 and $10 they are long running numbers with old school 2 C or D outputs. And Rayovac has also reintroduced the Sportsman in a solid 3x,aaa platform that can run on an 18500. Energizer has a line of "smart" lights with switchless touch feature or adjusting output for throw or flood from the same light.

A 65 lumen $4 floater by Eveready.

Some budget friendly numbers that are actually pretty good.
Left is a smart light that looks a lot brighter than the numbers suggest. Middle is an old school plastic number with a sliding switch and PR based LED. Right is a 2018 Sportsman that makes a mighty fine ancestor to the long long line of classics.

Oh, and speaking of classic...

After a near 2 year search...
Not one but two old school pencil beam Microstreams. While I was at it I tossed the tan G2L in the cart. The original P60L and plastic head version.

Until next time....
New Member Introductions / Re: Greetings from south Florida
« Last post by Omesato on May 11, 2018, 06:19:39 AM »
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